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  1. anythingneveryone

    anythingneveryone Sex Machine

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    Bush and Blair, lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction... So what?? We got rid a dictator as cruel as Hitler. Why isn't everyone rejoicing over their lie?
     
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    user 326 Renaissance Man Banned!

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    What is it, 2005?

    A dictator we helped put in office and aided militarily, by the way.
     
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  3. dirtyjedi

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    So what......
    People died based on a huge lie
     
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  4. anythingneveryone

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    If you overthrow a dictator, you save even more people from death,... and torture, in the long run. A lot of people died when we overthrew Hitler.
     
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  5. thestrangerinyou

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    Why that evil dictator and not any other dictator North Korea was worse then Iraq you did not see bush jumping in to fight the Koreans?
     
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    I mean... ISIS has probably killed and terrorized way more people than Saddam by now.
     
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  7. Ficxa 479

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    West policy is big lie.
     
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  8. anythingneveryone

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    I quite agree. I'm not saying bush did it out of virtue. I'm not a Bush fan. I think Blair was more sincere though. And as you say, why not North Korea, if it were possible.
     
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  9. anythingneveryone

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    Yeah, I should think so. Who knows if we'll ever get rid of them.
     
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    Here is the real problem with almost all of the current policies regarding the middle east. If the US and allies had not backed the Mujahid in 78-79 against the Russian invasion of Afghanistan they would never have lasted long enough to become the collective of Mujahideen that became better known as Al Talib from which the Taliban formed under Afghan policies while the group al-Qu'ida was formed almost as an off shoot by Osama Bin Laden as a response to the assassination of a cleric. If not for actions in the late 1970's and early 1980's to deter the invasion there very well might be no need for any action in the middle east today.

    Anything can be questioned as for its impact on the future but unless you are omnipotent your opinion is as valid as everyone elses.
     
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      I would go even further back then that with the sykes-picot agreement the borders set In the middle East made no sense after that.
       
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  11. user 326

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    Uhh no.

    The real problem dates back to when European imperialists invaded the Middle East to secure oil, causing WWI, and then carved up the former Ottoman Empire as their own territory.

    The British government ruined Afghanistan and created terrorists through their unprovoked war crimes, not the US.

    And that's not how the Taliban formed. They were only one section of the mujahideen.
     
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      hannahsbigdaddy, Nov 12, 2019
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      Ball-less do you even know what the mujahideen are? Where they are from or how they were formed? Since I know that all you will have is some ignorant bullshit that your momma told you at your home school day camps I will explain the reality to you. The Mujahideen formed to fight of the Russian invasion in 1979 in Afghanistan. There is a far cry between British attempts to colonize the middle east not long after the turn of the century. The word Mujahideen simply refers to one who engages in Jihad. It is not distinct to one country or even group of people or tribe, just anyone that engages in Jihad aka the struggle/ fight against the enemies of Islam. Now if you want to talk about the evolution of the Jihad that became Al Talib and then the Afghan Taliban. Giving that the Taliban aka Al Talib did not form as an army until 1996, again not even close to the British colonization, and was formed specifically to repel the US led invasion of the middle east.
       
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      No he doesn't. He's gotta go to Wikipedia to find out.
       
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    Afghanistan:

    Churchill found his love for war during the time he spent in Afghanistan. While there he said “all who resist will be killed without quarter” because the Pashtuns need “recognise the superiority of race”. He believed the Pashtuns needed to be dealt with, he would reminisce in his writings about how he partook in the burning villages and peoples homes.

    “We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the great shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation.” — Churchill on how the British carried on in Afghanistan, and he was only too happy to be part of it.

    Churchill would also write of how “every tribesman caught was speared or cut down at once”. Proud of the terror he helped inflict on the people of Afghanistan Churchill was well on the road to becoming a genocidal maniac.


    Iraq:

    “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against the uncivilized tribes… it would spread a lively terror.” — Churchill on the use of gas in the Middle East and India

    Churchill was appointed ‘Secretary of State for the Colonies’ in 1921. He formed the ‘Middle East Department’ which was responsible for Iraq. Determined to have his beloved empire on the cheap he decided air power could replace ground troops. A strategy of bombing any resistance to British rule was now employed.

    Several times in the 1920s various groups in the region now known as Iraq rose up against the British. The air force was then put into action, indiscriminately bombing civilian areas so to subdue the population.

    Churchill was also an advocate for the use of mustard and poison gases. Whilst ‘Secretary for War and Air’ he advised that “the provision of some kind of asphyxiating bombs” should be used “for use in preliminary operations against turbulent tribes” in order to take control of Iraq.

    When Iraqi tribes stood up for themselves, under the direction of Churchill the British unleashed terror on mud, stone and reed villages.

    Churchill’s bombing of civilians in ‘Mesopotamia’ (Kurdistan and Iraq) was summed up by war criminal ‘Bomber Harris’:

    “The Arab and Kurd now know what real bombing means within 45 minutes a full-sized village can be practically wiped out, and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured, by four or five machines which offer them no real target, no opportunity for glory as warriors, no effective means of escape”. — Arthur ‘Bomber’ Harris.


    Iran:

    When Britain seized Iran’s oil industry Churchill proclaimed it was “a prize from fairyland beyond our wildest dreams”. He meddled in Iranian affairs for decades doing his utmost to exclude Iranians from their natural resources. Encouraging the looting of the nation when most lived in severe poverty.

    In June 1914 Churchill proposed a bill in the House of Commons that would see the British government become become the major shareholder of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company. The company would go on to refrain from paying Iran its share of the dividends before paying tax to the British exchequer. Essentially the British were illegally taxing the Iranian government.

    When the nationalist government of Mohammad Mosaddegh threatened British ‘interests’ in Iran, Churchill was there, ready to protect them at any cost. Even if that meant desecrating democracy. He helped organise a coup against Mosaddegh in August 1953. He told the CIA operations officer that helped carry out the plan “if i had been but a few years younger, I would have loved nothing better than to have served under your command in this great venture”.

    Churchill arranged for the BBC to send coded messages to let the Shah of Iran know that they were overthrowing the democratically elected government. Instead of the BBC ending their Persian language news broadcast with “it is now midnight in London” they under Churchill’s orders said “it is now exactly midnight”.

    Churchill went on to privately describe the coup as “the finest operation since the end of the war [WW2]”. Being a proud product of imperialism he had no issue ousting Mosaddegh so Britain could get back to sapping the riches of Iran.



    Now tell me again how it's all the US's fault.
     
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      Nope not facts.. But you keep lying.
       
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      Whatever you need to tell yourself.

      Facts that you like don't exist, and you're not a sad little pathological liar.
       
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      Hehehe whatever you need to tell yourself to make you look right.. Doesn't make it true. Unlike my life which is all true. And you can't do shit about it except cry. And I know I'm NOT a pathological liar thanks for finally saying it. Hehehehe
       
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      That's right. Keep projecting all of your obvious issues with reality onto me.
       
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      :finger:
       
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    Because the lie cost several thousand American and allied lives, plus many more thousands of Iraqis. Are they really any better off for it?
     
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    That's without even getting into the British Raj or their puppet governments in Bangladesh and Afghanistan.
     
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    Maybe because Hitler seemed intent on invading other countries across Europe, so we are rejoicing that we all still have the 'freedom' that we were used to, because he was defeated.
    Iraq and other countries in the region were having internal problems mostly, so we were not invading to save the free world - totally different scenario I think.

    Note - I am replying to the original question only, and trying very hard to avoid the other discussions going on since then, which only illustrate how complex the problems really are.
     
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    If they hadn't gone into Iraq, even after the death of Saddam Hussein, today, there would still be his family, who were just a cruel as he was, and all the administration who were their partners in crime.
     
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